October 1, 2013 at 8:50 am #97327
President Obama says that if Congress does not fulfill its responsibility to pass a budget today, much of the United States government will be forced to shut down tomorrow. September 30, 2013.
Government shut and the views from Rachel Maddow regarding Republicans and reasons for this threat.
As you go through your day, don’t forget JJP at TWiB.
Drop those links. Engage in debate. Give us trivia and gossip too.
And always, have a peaceful day.October 1, 2013 at 8:51 am #97328
Good Morning, EveryoneOctober 1, 2013 at 8:53 am #97329
RobertJWash · Robert Wash
MT @DCdebbie Today, GOP denies 800,000 workers their paycheck while Democrats give millions of Americans access to health care.
donnabrazile · Donna Brazile
RT @sfpelosi : Remember, the same folks screaming about #Benghazi have just cut embassy security funding around the world.
EndHateRadio · end hate radio
Lol!! And true! RT LiberalMomma: A group of rabid monkeys would govern better than GOP. #GOPshutdownOctober 1, 2013 at 8:57 am #97330
theGrio’s Joy-Ann Reid explains the impending government shutdown
by Joy-Ann Reid | September 30, 2013 at 7:14 PM
We’ve heard a lot recently about the (increasingly strong) possibility of a federal government shutdown, which technically, would take place tonight at midnight, with the effects rolling out over time.
The shutdown is looming because Republicans in the House and the Democratic-controlled Senate can’t agree on a short-term bill funding the nation’s expenses. But how did we get here? Here’s a bit of federal budgeting 101 from theGrio.
Take a look and let us know what you think!October 1, 2013 at 9:04 am #97331
September 30, 2013 9:21 PM
“They Have Lost Their Minds”
By Ed Kilgore
Unsurprisingly, the House passed John Boehner’s Plan B-2 continuing resolution that included a one-year delay in the Affordable Care Act’s individual mandate plus the Vitter Amendment killing employer subsidies for health care coverage of Members and staff of Congress and executive branch political appointees.
Rep. Peter King thrilled some bored observers earlier tonight by talking of a “moderate” Republican vote against B-2 that might lead to a clean CR. But in the end, only 12 Republicans (including hard-core wingers Paul Broun, Phil Gingrey, Louis Gohmert, Steve King and Michele Bachmann) voted against B-2; nine Democrats voted for it; and it passed easily. So the closest thing to a “Republican revolt” was among people who refused to back down on a full Obamacare implementation delay or defunding.
“They have lost their minds,” quoth Harry Reid, whose Senate is about to slam-dunk-reject B-2. So barring something very strange, the government will shut down at midnight.October 1, 2013 at 9:05 am #97332
Report: Senate Dems May Leak Emails From Boehner Staff About Health Care Subsidies Share
OCTOBER 1, 2013, 7:21 AM EDT
Senate Democrats debated leaking emails exchanged between Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid’s (D-NV) and House Speaker John Boehner’s (R-OH) chiefs of staff discussing employer contributions to congressional staff’s health care, Roll Call reported Tuesday.
Senate Democratic chiefs of staff discussed email exchanges between Reid’s chief David Krone and Boehner’s chief Mike Sommers at a recent meeting, an anonymous source with knowledge of the meeting told Roll Call. The emails would reveal Boehner’s stance on employer subsidies for his staff’s health care plans, according to Roll Call.
Another anonymous individual who attended a dinner Monday night with Sen. Dick Durbin (D-IL) told the publication that the senator revealed to the lobbyists present that the emails would be leaked within a day.
A Boehner spokesman said the emails would reflect the speaker’s anti-Obamacare position.October 1, 2013 at 9:06 am #97333
John Legend ✔ @johnlegend
F the shutdown. The Health Insurance Marketplace is now open in every state. Don’t wait another day to #GetCovered! http://www.healthcare.gov
7:10 AM – 1 Oct 2013October 1, 2013 at 9:08 am #97334
Joy Reid @TheReidReport
Ted Cruz has engineered the 1st govt shutdown in 17 years. Jim Demint’s mad vision of fusing the GOP and RW talk radio is complete.
11:17 PM – 30 Sep 2013October 1, 2013 at 9:10 am #97335
Harry Reid Renames The GOP the ‘Banana Republicans’
By: Jason Easley
Sep. 30th, 2013
While speaking to the media today, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid coined a new term for the GOP. Sen. Reid called them the banana Republicans.
Majority Leader Reid said, “I’ve heard the idea of a short term extension floated. Let me be very, very clear.The Senate’s bill is a short term extension. That’s what it is. It’s a six week funding bill. That’s all it is, six weeks. If we can’t pass this, we are in a truly banana Republican mindset. This is what we look at other countries doing. The United States funding the government for a week or ten days at a time? Not so good.”
Reid also urged Boehner to let the full House vote on the Senate passed clean CR, He also told the Speaker of the House to stop trying to force a government shutdown. Democrats know that the House is fractured, so the message coming from the Senate Dems is that Boehner needs to bring their bill to the House floor and let it be voted on.
Rep. Boehner knows that the Senate bill would pass, and that is exactly why he won’t allow a vote on it.October 1, 2013 at 9:10 am #97336
Darrell Issa: ‘Not Funding The Government Is Part Of Funding It’
Catherine Thompson – October 1, 2013, 9:01 AM EDT
Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA) and CNN’s “New Day” co-host Chris Cuomo got into a heated exchange Tuesday over the government shutdown, with Issa arguing that Congress has the “right” to not fund the federal government.
Issa told Cuomo that House Republicans are looking to compromise on a temporary spending bill, and said that if the Senate rejects the House’s offer to go to conference Tuesday morning the move would be tantamount to “rejecting the constitutional process.”
“You want to use the phrase constitutional mandate. I applaud you for using it,” Cuomo said. “However, the mandate is for you to fund the government. Not for you to not fund the government. That’s a decision you made here and you made it for the political reasons that you lay out.”
“Chris, bless your heart, but not funding the government is part of funding it,” Issa interjected. “If you have the right to fund the government, you have the right to fund the government to a lesser amount.”
“[Former House Speaker] Tip O’Neill shut down the government seven times because President Reagan wouldn’t agree to his excess spending,” he continued. “If you can shut down because you don’t get enough money spent, you can also have a discussion about spending too much.”
Cuomo then pressed the California Republican to say if he thought the government shutdown was wrong for hurting American families.
“You can’t accuse me of beating my wife and then turn around and tell me, isn’t that true? We did not shut down the government,” Issa responded. “We offered to the Senate, again and again, things to keep the government fully funded. We have said we want to go to conference. We want to have a discussion about the delay of portions of Obamacare for a short period of time in order to get it right.”October 1, 2013 at 9:12 am #97337
Everything I’m Not @No_Cut_Card
This is the GOP punishing America for voting for Obama.
7:19 AM – 1 Oct 2013October 1, 2013 at 9:13 am #97338
Why Republicans shut down the government
By Steve Benen
Tue Oct 1, 2013 8:00 AM EDT
Many Americans are probably waking up this morning to some unsettling news: congressional Republicans shut down the federal government last night, the first time since congressional Republicans did the same thing 17 years ago. And I imagine Americans who don’t follow day-to-day developments in Washington will ask a simple question: “Why?”
The good news is, it’s a surprisingly easy question to answer. The bad news is, the answer is wholly unsatisfying.
Kevin Drum had an item last week that summarized the entire political dynamic in just 92 words
The Republican Party is bending its entire will, staking its very soul, fighting to its last breath, in service of a crusade to….
Make sure that the working poor don’t have access to affordable health care. I just thought I’d mention that in plain language, since it seems to get lost in the fog fairly often. But that’s it. That’s what’s happening. They have been driven mad by the thought that rich people will see their taxes go up slightly in order to help non-rich people get decent access to medical care.October 1, 2013 at 9:15 am #97339
Don’t forget what the shutdown is really about
By Ezra Klein, Updated: September 30, 2013
Nice job, Congress. By which I mean, not a nice job. (Andrew Harrer/Bloomberg)
1) This is all about stopping a law that increases taxes on rich people and reduces subsidies to private insurers in Medicare in order to help low-income Americans buy health insurance. That’s it. That’s why the Republican Party might shut down the government and default on the debt.
2) The “continuing resolution” only funds the government for six weeks. So even if all goes well Monday night we’ll be doing this again in November.
3) Republicans are now discussing a “one-week CR,” which would mean we’d be doing this again in seven days — and we’d be that much closer to the debt ceiling.
4) The leadership of the Republican Party agrees that the debt ceiling absolutely must be lifted. “I’m not going to risk the full faith and credit of the federal government,” House Speaker John Boehner said. But they also maintain that they are willing to breach the debt limit, risking the full faith and credit of the federal government. As my colleague Greg Sargent has written in the Plum Line, this is a “glaring contradiction” at the heart of the GOP’s position.
5) A few months ago, the conventional wisdom was that the negotiations over funding the government would hinge on how to replace sequestration, as the cuts are proving too deep for either Democratic or Republican appropriators. Instead, sequestration’s cuts have been mostly left alone, and the argument has been entirely about Obamacare.
6) Boehner isn’t really in control of his House conference, and he has no idea how to get out of this. Remember, Boehner’s initial preference was to simply fund the government. His members forced him to accept Republican Sen. Ted Cruz’s defunding plan. After the Senate rejected Cruz’s plan, Boehner again wanted to simply fund the government. He lost again. As the National Review’s Robert Costa reported, “For now, Boehner doesn’t have a plan beyond passing this resolution and waiting to see what happens.”
7) Democrats won more votes than Republicans in the last election. That was true in the presidential campaign. It was true in the Senate campaigns. And it was true in the House campaigns.
That doesn’t mean the Republican Party is under any obligation to stand back and let Democrats do as they please. But imagine if the Republican Party had won the 2012 election and Senate Democrats threatened to breach the debt ceiling and cause a financial crisis unless Republicans added a public option to Obamacare. Does anyone think a President Mitt Romney would find that position reasonable? Does anyone think that position would be reasonable?
Update: A reader writes in:
There might be an even more instructive analogy.
In May 2007, 140 Democrats in the House of Representatives voted to defund the Iraq war. In September of the same year, Congress voted to increase the debt limit. Imagine if Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats had threatened to breach the debt ceiling unless Republicans agreed to defund the war. At that time, approval of the Iraq war was polled at 33% in favor and 64% against.October 1, 2013 at 9:16 am #97340October 1, 2013 at 9:17 am #97341
October 01, 2013 8:59 AM\
The Insanity Is Not Temporary
By Ed Kilgore
A lot of the talk from progressives (and I plead guilty to doing this myself on occasion) about the government shutdown and/or the impending possibility of a debt default suggests House Republicans are suffering from some sort of temporary insanity, or are indulging some sort of temporary temper tantrum by a faction they cannot ignore but can outlast. This habit flows from the broader sense that the Tea Party movement is some sort of temporary phenomenon—a “fever,” as the president famously put it—that will go away to be replaced by good, stolid, “moderate” conservatism sooner rather than later. You see it in the high hosannas raised every time yet another poll shows the percentage of voters identifying with the Tea Party—as opposed to the Republican Party that has largely internalized Tea Party policies and strategies—declining.
This attitude is perfectly understandable, but risks a major misunderstanding of what conservatives are up to at any given moment. Yes, many of them have a remarkably radical vision for America all right, which involves bringing back the idyllic government of the Coolidge administration and patriarchal culture of the Eisenhower administration. But they are pursuing an entirely rational if risky strategy for getting from here to way back there, based on three overlapping perspectives that are reasonably common in the conservative commentariat:
1) Radicalism on spending is the hand voters have dealt the GOP. The “defunding Obamacare” strategy has always been based on the leverage Republicans had after 2012 in maintaining control of just one congressional chamber. They couldn’t repeal Obamacare or enact the Ryan Budget, but they could refuse to fund the Obama Era welfare state, which meant threatening a government shutdown or a debt default. Obamacare was the natural target for this strategic brinkmanship since it polled worse than, say, Medicare or food stamps.
2) Resisting a new entitlement is easier and more effective than rolling back an established entitlement. For all the conservative talk about the hatred Americans feel for Obamacare, there is a widespread fear on the Right that once the law is in place for a few years, it will become part of the landscape, like Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid or the Rx drug prescription before them. And this fear coincides with the “tipping point” argument that the Welfare State is now ensnaring so many Americans that “takers” are outnumbering “makers,” and will defend their theft of “maker” resources fiercely at the polls.
3) In divided government, implacable unity is the winning formula. There is an intense belief among conservatives that Republican back-stabbing—RINOism!—and tactical surrender to liberals explains every defeat for the Right going back for decades. Add in the inevitable “war of nerves” that characterizes politics in an era of divided government, and the conviction that red-state Democrats will side with Republicans if pushed to the wall, and you have an argument against compromise of any sort, at any price.
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