October 18, 2013 at 6:36 am #98541
In a statement from the State Dining Room of the White House, President Obama says that because Democrats and responsible Republicans came together, the first government shutdown in 17 years is now over and the first default in more than 200 years will not happen. October 17, 2013.
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And always, have a peaceful dayOctober 18, 2013 at 6:36 am #98542
Good Morning, EveryoneOctober 18, 2013 at 8:43 am #98543
LUVVIE’S SCANDAL RECAP IS UP!
Mrs. Smith Goes to Washington: Scandal Episode 303 Recap
[ 6 ] October 18, 2013 | Luvvie
Scandal is stressful, bro. I mean it. This show be having me waiting to exhale for a whole hour. I’m worried for myself because I be so invested in every second. When the show was bout to start, the homie @YoungSinick said ”Shh, my stories are about to come on” and he’s right. This is our generation’s All My Children and Days of Our Lives. Now I know how my Granny used to feel.October 18, 2013 at 9:01 am #98544
A New Poll Shows The Republican Party Has Completely Collapsed in Virginia
By: Sarah Jones
Thursday, October 17th, 2013, 8:11 pm
These numbers are astounding. Seventy-one percent of Independents in Virginia now view the Republican Party negatively. Just 23% don’t. Sixty-two percent overall have a negative view of the party. Yes, this is all about the shutdown, so heckofajob, Brownie Ted Cruz.
A new NBC4/NBC News/Marist poll shows the Republican Party collapsing in Virginia, a state deeply impacted by the government shutdown. Fifty-four percent blame Republicans for the shutdown, while just 31% blame President Obama.
Democrats face unfavorables of 45-50% and President Obama has favorables at 50-48%.
Thirty-nine percent said either they or a family member were affected by the shutdown. In fact, the shutdown stood to hit Virginia harder than any other state, a different survey by Wallet Hub, a financial website, found yesterday. The survey took into account “… the number of federal workers per capita and the amount of federal contract money per capita, both of which helped push Virginia to the top.”October 18, 2013 at 9:05 am #98545
Judge Denounces His Own Ruling on the Constitutionality of Voter ID Laws
By: Adalia Woodbury
The Judge who wrote that the ruling that give Vote suppression laws legal cover admits he got it wrong. Judge Richard Posner, who was appointed to the 7th Circuit by Ronald Reagan made the admission in his book, Reflections on Judging.
Other courts, including the Supreme Court of the United States, used Posner’s arguments in Crawford v. Marion County Election Board as the framework to justify rulings on subsequent harsher laws that were clearly designed to suppress votes by certain classes of eligible voters.
It’s worth noting, that while Judge Posner thought he was doing the right thing at the time, he recognizes that his ruling was abused to justify vote suppression under the pretense of addressing statistically non-existent voter fraud.
I plead guilty to having written the majority opinion (affirmed by the Supreme Court) upholding Indiana’s requirement that prospective voters prove their identity with a photo ID—a law now widely regarded as a means of voter suppression rather than fraud prevention.
During an interview with Mike Sacks on Huff Post Live, elaborated.
We judges and lawyers, we don’t know enough about the subject matters that we regulate, right? And that if the lawyers had provided us with a lot of information about the abuse of voter identification laws, this case would have been decided differently.
This is a big deal for two reasons. First, judges disavowing their own rulings is a rare event. When that happens it means there is a real reason to revisit the question addressed in the disavowed ruling. In this case, the judge also acknowledged that an unintended consequence of his ruling is vote suppression. if he had more information about the abuse of voter ID laws, he would have ruled differently. Without Posner’s ruling, subsequent decisions justifying vote suppression laws go bye-bye. It’s that simple.October 18, 2013 at 9:07 am #98546
Republicans Have Been Crushed and Humiliated Because President Obama Said No
By: Jason Easley
Wednesday, October 16th, 2013, 2:01 pm
The fact of the matter is that it wasn’t Ted Cruz or John Boehner who caused the latest Republican crushing defeat. It was President Obama steadfastly saying no.
The seeds of the most embarrassing Republican defeat in decades were planted when congressional Republicans and their corporate billionaires made the mistake of misjudging President Obama’s character.
The government shutdown came, and Obama still said no. Days turned into weeks, and the president’s answer was always the same. He’d be happy to talk, but first the Republicans had to do their jobs by opening the government and raising the debt ceiling. The president was never unreasonable, but he was unyielding.
President Obama was the backbone of the Democratic stance. Harry Reid and Senate Democrats were the heart, but Obama was the steel spine. Obama made the Republicans blink first and cave to his will.
President Obama deserves credit. Obama has redefined the perception of his presidency. He has made it clear that if Republicans want to shutdown the government in January or risk default in February 2014, he is going to make them pay a heavy political price.
The Republican Party has been damaged, crushed, and humiliated all because President Obama kept saying no.October 18, 2013 at 9:13 am #98547
ok, don’t say that you weren’t warned.
Do not have a drink in your hand when reading this post.
Have an excuse ready for when your co-workers ask why you are laughing hysterically.
I laughed so hard that I got a laugh stomach cramp.
[ 55 ] October 16, 2013 | Luvvie
I’ve said this before but babies are cute by default because they’re so little and small things lean towards cute. And some babies are born cute AND looking like they’ve been here before. You’ve seen those mini humans. They just look like they hold a wisdom of the years and these are the kids you gotta give strong names to. Names like Rufus, Jebediah, Orelius or Bertha. You can’t name babies who’ve been here before stuff like Jessica, Zach or Timmy. Nope. They need to be called Wilbur or Clementine from jump!
I came across a picture of this baby a while ago and I immediately wanted to get off is lawn, because I was sure he was gonna chase me off it.October 18, 2013 at 9:20 am #98548
The Plum Line
Did Barack Obama do John Boehner a big favor?
By Greg Sargent
October 17 at 1:53 pm
President Obama gave brief remarks this morning in which he stressed that it’s time to get back to normal governing, now that the crisis has been temporarily resolved. Obama twice stressed that economic growth must be a leading goal, and noted the deficit is “falling fast,” signaling a set of guiding priorities that — if followed in coming negotiations — will hearten liberals. He also said this:
“In the coming days and weeks, we should sit down and pursue a balanced approach to a responsible budget, a budget that grows our economy faster and shrinks our long-term deficits further.
“At the beginning of this year, that’s what both Democrats and Republicans committed to doing. The Senate passed a budget; House passed a budget; they were supposed to come together negotiate. And had one side not decided to pursue a strategy of brinksmanship, each side could have gotten together and figured out, how do we shape a budget that provides certainty to businesses and people who rely on government, provides certainty to investors in our economy, and we’d be growing faster right now.
“Now, the good news is the legislation I signed yesterday now requires Congress to do exactly that — what it could have been doing all along.”
Beyond this, though, it’s worth asking whether, by holding the line until Republicans had no choice but to capitulate on the debt limit, Barack Obama actually did John Boehner a long term favor of sorts.
Most observers think John Boehner genuinely wants to get to some kind of long term budget deal. If true, he plainly has been hampered by pressure from the right not to even enter into negotiations that risk resulting in a compromise Tea Partyers would find unacceptable. Before yesterday’s outcome, conservatives explicitly were insisting that GOP leaders must not enter into any talks unless they could wield the threat of harm to the country to get something for nothing. Remember, Ted Cruz angered fellow Republicans when he refused to enter into normal budget talks unless Dems agreed in advance not to make raising the debt ceiling even tangentially related to the talks, effectively reserving it as an extortion tool later.October 18, 2013 at 9:23 am #98549
By PAUL KRUGMAN
Published: October 17, 2013
The government is reopening, and we didn’t default on our debt. Happy days are here again, right?
Well, no. For one thing, Congress has only voted in a temporary fix, and we could find ourselves going through it all over again in a few months. You may say that Republicans would be crazy to provoke another confrontation. But they were crazy to provoke this one, so why assume that they’ve learned their lesson?
Beyond that, however, it’s important to recognize that the economic damage from obstruction and extortion didn’t start when the G.O.P. shut down the government. On the contrary, it has been an ongoing process, dating back to the Republican takeover of the House in 2010. And the damage is large: Unemployment in America would be far lower than it is if the House majority hadn’t done so much to undermine recovery.
A useful starting point for assessing the damage done is a widely cited report by the consulting firm Macroeconomic Advisers, which estimated that “crisis driven” fiscal policy — which has been the norm since 2010 — has subtracted about 1 percent off the U.S. growth rate for the past three years. This implies cumulative economic losses — the value of goods and services that America could and should have produced, but didn’t — of around $700 billion. The firm also estimated that unemployment is 1.4 percentage points higher than it would have been in the absence of political confrontation, enough to imply that the unemployment rate right now would be below 6 percent instead of above 7.October 18, 2013 at 9:25 am #98550
October 17 at 4:52 pm
With the crisis chatter in Washington now turning to speculation about the coming budget talks and the possibility of a “grand bargain” to replace the sequester, liberals and unions are getting increasingly nervous that Congressional Dems will give up entitlement benefits cuts in exchange for, well, whatever is on offer from Republicans, which isn’t at all clear.
In an interview, Damon Silvers, the policy director of the AFL-CIO, laid down a hard line, putting Dems on notice that any agreement that cuts entitlement benefits — even in a deal that includes GOP concessions on tax hikes — is a nonstarter. Silvers strongly suggested labor would withhold support in 2014 from any Dem lawmaker who supports such a deal.
“We are opposed to Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid benefits cuts. Period,” Silvers told me. “There will be no cover for members of either party who vote for such a thing.”
Silvers said the AFL-CIO also opposes the entitlements cuts in the President’s budget, such as Chained CPI and a form of Medicare means testing. It’s unclear how, or whether, those will figure in what Dems bring to the table in the budget talks, which are mandated by the deal just reached to end the crisis.
“Chained CPI is like the vampire of American politics,” Silvers said. “It keeps being shot through the heart and it keeps reviving. The reason it keeps coming back is because it has billionaires behind it.”October 18, 2013 at 9:28 am #98551
October 17, 2013 11:03 AM
What Lesson Was Learned?
By Ed Kilgore
So if the end of the fiscal crisis represents, as Ross Douthat calls it, a “Teachable Moment” for the GOP, what would that lesson, exactly, be? It mostly appears to be about strategy and tactics, not goals or ideology (or “principles” as ideologues like to say in their endless efforts to ascribe dishonesty and gutlessness to dissidents).
Even for Douthat, who clearly wants the memory of the Tea Folk (or to use his term, “populist”) failure in this incident to be seared into the collective memory of Republicans, it’s mostly about the how rather than the what and the why:
The problem was “the stunt,” not the violent antipathy towards a pale version of universal health coverage or the conviction that the New Deal/Great Society legacy is fatal to America or the belief that nearly half the country is composed of satanic blood-suckers and baby-killers.
But don’t confuse that strategic argument with any broader sense that conservatives or Republicans should rethink their entire militant opposition to the Affordable Care Act. No, it just means recognizing that getting rid of this law—as opposed to obstructing it and making sure the number of people benefitting from it is as small as possible—must await the kind of victory in 2016 that eluded the party last year.
Don’t get me wrong here: there’s great value to the nation in convincing one of our two major political parties to respect the results of elections and eschew wildly disruptive legislative strategies and tactics. But even if that “lesson was learned,” and the jury’s still out on that proposition, it’s not the same as a serious reconsideration of today’s radical conservatism, which may well emerge from this incident as strong as ever.October 18, 2013 at 2:29 pm #98572
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@DavidCornDC I have Multiple Sclerosis and not eligible for Medicare for another year. Thanks to the ACA I can now get health Insurance!
7:16 AM – 17 Oct 2013
@DavidCornDC Daughter dropped out of college due to brainbloodclot. We were able to add her back to our plan because of Obamacare.
8:09 AM – 18 Oct 2013
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9:18 AM – 17 Oct 2013
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@DavidCornDC self employed w pre existing conditions, our family was paying $2300/mo Now will save $500 w better choices!
6:33 AM – 17 Oct 2013October 18, 2013 at 2:31 pm #98573
Thanks To Obamacare, Oregon Cut Its Unsinsured Population By 10 Percent Over The Past Two Weeks
By Tara Culp-Ressler on October 17, 2013 at 4:32 pm
Over the past two weeks, Oregon has signed up so many low-income residents for health coverage that the state has cut its uninsured population by 10 percent, according to state health officials. The majority of those people are newly eligible for public insurance plans thanks to Obamacare’s expansion of the Medicaid program.
The Oregon Health Plan — which is what the state calls its Medicaid-funded program for poor residents — has enrolled 56,000 new people this month. State officials credit those high numbers to a fast-track enrollment system that allows people to easily sign up. More than 250,000 food stamp recipients in the state received a notice informing them that they’ve become eligible for the Oregon Health Plan, and explaining that they can either make a phone call or fill out a form in order to complete the enrollment process.
“This is tremendous news for the thousands of Oregonians anxious to get access to quality, affordable health care,” Gov. John Kitzhaber (D) said in a statement. “We still have a ways to go, but in reducing our uninsured rate by 10 percent in just two weeks, we’re showing what’s possible when a state is committed to fundamentally changing the health care system to provide better access, better health and lower costs.”October 18, 2013 at 2:32 pm #98574
@DavidCornDC In RI paying $717 a mo. Pvt ins. $108 under ACA. Love, love ACA!
8:29 AM – 18 Oct 2013
Angel Schroeder @angelrippyschro
@DavidCornDC Coverage thru employer similar. Daughter with cystic fibrosis will never know lifetime max. or be denied. #ACAWorks
8:02 AM – 18 Oct 2013October 18, 2013 at 2:34 pm #98575
Obama Pollster Warns Republicans: Oppose Obamacare At Your Own Risk
By Igor Volsky on October 18, 2013 at 8:32 am
Despite claiming that the shutdown fight represented their last best chance to undermine the Affordable Care Act, Republicans in Congress insist that they will continue to chip away at the health care reform law — even as uninsured Americans begin to sign up for coverage in the law’s new marketplaces. But poll numbers from Obama campaign pollster Joel Benenson suggest that the effort has little public support — even among Republican voters.
“Each time Republicans ratchet up their efforts to delay or defund the ACA instead of focusing on what should be their No. 1 priority — strengthening our economic recovery and creating jobs — they suffer,” Benenson wrote in a memo initially obtained by Politico. The document presents an “array of public polling from a wide variety of outlets” to show that the legislative effort to undermine the law has hurt the party “on every front”:
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