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	<title>Comments on: (Choosing not to) Battle in Seattle</title>
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		<title>By: Leon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Aug 2010 07:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you.  I have been on both sides.  I could tell worse stories about well-off white kids. Or well-off  Chinese kids in China.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s amazing what a few students will do in order not to have to learn, to come up to the standards you allude to, which, by the way, I&#039;m all for. If they could just put that energy into behaving properly and studying, everyone would be better off.  But no, they get off on another agenda, for whatever reasons.  In my experience a lot of it is culture, and quite a bit of it is simply human nature, cross-cultural, and some of it is just who the heck can say. There are always problems to be dealt with.  It&#039;s just about always a fight of some kind -- students, parents, administration.  In the US, consumerism, advertising, and  entitlement don&#039;t help, that&#039;s for sure.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;True self-esteem comes from accomplishment, which can&#039;t happen if you lower standards and expectations into stupid land.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you.  I have been on both sides.  I could tell worse stories about well-off white kids. Or well-off  Chinese kids in China.</p>
<p>It&#39;s amazing what a few students will do in order not to have to learn, to come up to the standards you allude to, which, by the way, I&#39;m all for. If they could just put that energy into behaving properly and studying, everyone would be better off.  But no, they get off on another agenda, for whatever reasons.  In my experience a lot of it is culture, and quite a bit of it is simply human nature, cross-cultural, and some of it is just who the heck can say. There are always problems to be dealt with.  It&#39;s just about always a fight of some kind &#8212; students, parents, administration.  In the US, consumerism, advertising, and  entitlement don&#39;t help, that&#39;s for sure.  </p>
<p>True self-esteem comes from accomplishment, which can&#39;t happen if you lower standards and expectations into stupid land.</p>
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		<title>By: ThatDeborahGirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThatDeborahGirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Aug 2010 00:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Preach on brotha! These negroes better wake up and realize that the minute we think we DESERVE to be treated like this, white folks have won. Game. Set. Match.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Preach on brotha! These negroes better wake up and realize that the minute we think we DESERVE to be treated like this, white folks have won. Game. Set. Match.</p>
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		<title>By: ThatDeborahGirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThatDeborahGirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Aug 2010 00:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your privilege is showing. I suggest you go here: &lt;a href=&quot;http://stuffwhitepeopledo.blogspot.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;stuffwhitepeopledo.blogspot.com&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your privilege is showing. I suggest you go here: <a href="http://stuffwhitepeopledo.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">stuffwhitepeopledo.blogspot.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: be_good</title>
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		<dc:creator>be_good</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2010 08:50:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, that&#039;s wrong... but so is attempting to bribe (&quot;negotiate&quot;) teachers for grades. I saw affluent white kids do this all the time. They didn&#039;t do the work but they tried to flirt/bribe/cajole/whine/bring in the rich parents.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Poverty may have led that child to think that violence solves problems (those suburban kids would have been horrified). But I think American culture as a whole teaches that only a loser would actually work for grades, that good grades are &quot;deserved&quot; because you are a person, no more, no less, rather than grades being a reflection of your mastery of the material. It&#039;s a vicious circle of feel-good &quot;self-esteem&quot; lessons (which have been shown now to be counterproductive) and low expectations at literally every grade level.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We don&#039;t demand much out of pupils in most schools--and we don&#039;t get much, either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, that&#39;s wrong&#8230; but so is attempting to bribe (&#8220;negotiate&#8221;) teachers for grades. I saw affluent white kids do this all the time. They didn&#39;t do the work but they tried to flirt/bribe/cajole/whine/bring in the rich parents.</p>
<p>Poverty may have led that child to think that violence solves problems (those suburban kids would have been horrified). But I think American culture as a whole teaches that only a loser would actually work for grades, that good grades are &#8220;deserved&#8221; because you are a person, no more, no less, rather than grades being a reflection of your mastery of the material. It&#39;s a vicious circle of feel-good &#8220;self-esteem&#8221; lessons (which have been shown now to be counterproductive) and low expectations at literally every grade level.</p>
<p>We don&#39;t demand much out of pupils in most schools&#8211;and we don&#39;t get much, either.</p>
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		<title>By: be_good</title>
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		<dc:creator>be_good</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2010 08:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, dude, way to miss the fracking point.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I guess you are very angry. Hard to think straight or listen at someone when you are piping mad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, dude, way to miss the fracking point.</p>
<p>I guess you are very angry. Hard to think straight or listen at someone when you are piping mad.</p>
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		<title>By: be_good</title>
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		<dc:creator>be_good</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2010 08:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Get real. Yahoo Answers and Youtube comments is where the trolls from the racist alt.* groups went when Usenet finally died. You&#039;ll just be stupider for even trying to engage them.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What scares me are the newspaper online comments pages. OTOH, stupid drunk retired calcified Reptilians are kind of known for making cranky calls to newspapers... and now they can do it on their WebTV.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Get real. Yahoo Answers and Youtube comments is where the trolls from the racist alt.* groups went when Usenet finally died. You&#39;ll just be stupider for even trying to engage them.</p>
<p>What scares me are the newspaper online comments pages. OTOH, stupid drunk retired calcified Reptilians are kind of known for making cranky calls to newspapers&#8230; and now they can do it on their WebTV.</p>
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		<title>By: Leon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jul 2010 06:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The question to me is is, why does this girl think she can be so rude to the cops in the first place? Of course I know she and many others think she has good reason. Obviously. That, however, is not the real point. She simply can&#039;t act like that.  And then grab the cop?  What can she possibly be thinking?  What part of her brain says this is okay?  I don&#039;t care if she&#039;s a teenager or not, if she&#039;s Black, White, Asian, it&#039;s totally 100% inexcusable. What can she possibly expect from this sort of behavior?  Of course the cop was wrong, but it&#039;s not like he wasn&#039;t provoked.  If it were a white kid who did this, do you think his reaction would&#039;ve been much different?  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Now I know cops do wrong. But that&#039;s not the issue here.  Let&#039;s try to keep it straight and not cloud and confuse things.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A while back I taught in an inner-city continuation high school. There was one other white person in the school and she was another teacher.  One day a student told me that if I didn&#039;t give him at least a B in the class because he had done some work, he would meet me in the parking lot after school.  This was maybe a 16 or 17 year old male.  My reaction wasn&#039;t fear, it was anger.  I stepped outside the classroom, not saying a word, speechless, literally shaking with rage.  There was a meeting with his mother and the principal and him. I don&#039;t recall that anything happened, except I was put in the position to reprimand this kid because no one else would. I said a few words but never was he told in no uncertain terms by anyone other than me that threatening a teacher with violence if you don&#039;t get the grade you think you deserve is 100% wrong.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;People, kids especially, need to learn and be taught to behave.  People cannot walk around scared of each other and ready to resort to violence, regardless of what the gun manufacturers, property developers, news organizations, and movie makers have the financial interests to promote. It&#039;s called civilization, and we&#039;re nowhere without it. Period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The question to me is is, why does this girl think she can be so rude to the cops in the first place? Of course I know she and many others think she has good reason. Obviously. That, however, is not the real point. She simply can&#39;t act like that.  And then grab the cop?  What can she possibly be thinking?  What part of her brain says this is okay?  I don&#39;t care if she&#39;s a teenager or not, if she&#39;s Black, White, Asian, it&#39;s totally 100% inexcusable. What can she possibly expect from this sort of behavior?  Of course the cop was wrong, but it&#39;s not like he wasn&#39;t provoked.  If it were a white kid who did this, do you think his reaction would&#39;ve been much different?  </p>
<p>Now I know cops do wrong. But that&#39;s not the issue here.  Let&#39;s try to keep it straight and not cloud and confuse things.</p>
<p>A while back I taught in an inner-city continuation high school. There was one other white person in the school and she was another teacher.  One day a student told me that if I didn&#39;t give him at least a B in the class because he had done some work, he would meet me in the parking lot after school.  This was maybe a 16 or 17 year old male.  My reaction wasn&#39;t fear, it was anger.  I stepped outside the classroom, not saying a word, speechless, literally shaking with rage.  There was a meeting with his mother and the principal and him. I don&#39;t recall that anything happened, except I was put in the position to reprimand this kid because no one else would. I said a few words but never was he told in no uncertain terms by anyone other than me that threatening a teacher with violence if you don&#39;t get the grade you think you deserve is 100% wrong.</p>
<p>People, kids especially, need to learn and be taught to behave.  People cannot walk around scared of each other and ready to resort to violence, regardless of what the gun manufacturers, property developers, news organizations, and movie makers have the financial interests to promote. It&#39;s called civilization, and we&#39;re nowhere without it. Period.</p>
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		<title>By: ThatDeborahGirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThatDeborahGirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2010 19:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We raise our children, telling them they&#039;re equal and then we are surprised when they don&#039;t know how to put on the respectful negro shuffle around the cops. I&#039;d march for her because no white teenager would ever be treated this way. She&#039;s a teenager and she acted like one. The cop treated her like she was a grown man coming from a bar fight. I would march for her. What you&#039;re saying is that it&#039;s acceptable for massa to beat one slave. Fuck that. You keep on thinking that being respectful to the police is enough to keep you safe. It&#039;s not. Being face down on the ground and surrounded by three cops isn&#039;t enough to keep you from getting shot in the back and the cops going free. What happened to all the people you named could happen to you, me any of us. Which is why  I would march for her.  I&#039;d march for a stupid crackhead getting his du jour beat down by the cops. We all count, not just the ones you think are worthy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We raise our children, telling them they&#39;re equal and then we are surprised when they don&#39;t know how to put on the respectful negro shuffle around the cops. I&#39;d march for her because no white teenager would ever be treated this way. She&#39;s a teenager and she acted like one. The cop treated her like she was a grown man coming from a bar fight. I would march for her. What you&#39;re saying is that it&#39;s acceptable for massa to beat one slave. Fuck that. You keep on thinking that being respectful to the police is enough to keep you safe. It&#39;s not. Being face down on the ground and surrounded by three cops isn&#39;t enough to keep you from getting shot in the back and the cops going free. What happened to all the people you named could happen to you, me any of us. Which is why  I would march for her.  I&#39;d march for a stupid crackhead getting his du jour beat down by the cops. We all count, not just the ones you think are worthy.</p>
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		<title>By: Howeird</title>
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		<dc:creator>Howeird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2010 08:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed... This could have easily been avoided. Take the ticket... Pay it... Go get some coffee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed&#8230; This could have easily been avoided. Take the ticket&#8230; Pay it&#8230; Go get some coffee.</p>
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		<title>By: Zaid Al-Hassan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zaid Al-Hassan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2010 21:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was a law of the land back in the day too that said don&#039;t resist your oppressors or get shot, lynched or burnt. It was also seen as bad judgment to escape but I guess that type of empathy and feeling escapes most black folk today. Still trying to get in when the door is double locked</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was a law of the land back in the day too that said don&#39;t resist your oppressors or get shot, lynched or burnt. It was also seen as bad judgment to escape but I guess that type of empathy and feeling escapes most black folk today. Still trying to get in when the door is double locked</p>
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